HP Spectre X-360 15-inch Gem Cut vs Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) (Pros & Cons)!

9 / 100

Hp Spectre X-360 15-inch Pros:

  • Top-notch productivity performance
  • Amazing battery performance
  • Durable and Lightweight
  • USB Type-A Port
  • Touchscreen with active pen

Hp Spectre X-360 15-inch Cons:

  • Same old HP Touchpad
  • Dim Screen for a premium system

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Pros:

  • Durable, sleek and lightweight workstation
  • Excellent build quality
  • Expandable Up to 64 GB DDR4 RAM
  • SD Card Slot and Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Two M2 SSD slot

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Pros:

  • Fairly expensive
  • Average Speakers

Hp Spectre X-360 15-inch vs Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme

This is an in-depth analysis and comparison of Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Xtreme and the HP Spectre x360 15 inch gem cut the one with the NVIDIA GTX 1050-TI Max-Q graphics card side which is what this one has. These both laptops have six-core Intel coffee-lake CPU’s inside. And they both support a pen, they both are available with 4k displays, they’re both thin and light kind of Pro Apps sort of professional high-end laptops. The Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon is completely flat so it does 180 degrees with the hinges where the  Spectre is a full convertible 360-degree hinge, which means you can put it in tablet mode. 

If you want to as well and 10 modes so keep that in mind while you’re reading this we’re gonna smack them down now. So what’s the difference?  First off,  the ThinkPad as you probably knows ThinkPads are the business line. So they target businesses but a lot of individuals buy them. And small businesses, otherwise called Soho’s and so yeah the HP targets a high-end consumer market which means you’ll see it in a place like “Best Buy” but not so much. And the corporate buying line-up but individuals will buy it and small businesses will buy. 

And HP has other lines like its EliteBook line for businesses. So the differences are things like Lenovo goes with that mil-spec standard for durability, a lot of that is heat dust and humidity kind of stuff. But they have some shock and vibration it’s largely carbon fiber on the outside. The casing with a metal cage on the inside for rigidity so that makes it lighter it’s around four pounds versus four-point seven-eight pounds. 

For the HP,  which is clad in metal. Which is great because it looks chic and Pro-Pro for consumers. You’ve got this complete metal-clad laptop now I think the HP is pretty durable. I mean that is one rigid casing but probably the thing I would worry about most is the display breaking on.  

That and if you did drop it three feet onto a floor Lenovo tends to sustain damage pretty well. A little bit more shock absorbing. In that design following on with the corporate slash power user thing versus the high-end consumer thing,  corporate buyers and the do-it-yourselfers tend to like it open it up and upgrade it.  

So, really to be one of the biggest differences here between these two laptops, the ThinkPad is designed to be easy to open, unscrew the screws on the bottom take off the lid.  World’s your oyster so you have to M2  SSD slots instead of the usual one which is nice supporting Nvme. And also this is slower  Satta three SSDs. It has two RAM slots so you can get it with 8 16 32 or even 64 gigs of RAM.

 Nowadays that’s pretty nice, isn’t it? But most people probably don’t need that much RAM. For example, so your average consumer, most people I’ve served quite well with 16  gigs of ram which is a good thing.  Because the HP Spectre tops out at 16  gigs of ram and that Ram is not upgradeable it’s soldered.  On the HP has one M2 SSD slot. Which is typical of most laptops.  

It’s more of a pain to open mostly because you have to pull off the rubber strips on the bottom to get to most of the screws that hold the bottom cover on. And you might munch up the adhesive that holds those strips on and have to order a new set of rubber strips if you open it up. 

So when it comes to pricing, the ThinkPad has been on the market for many months now.  So, it started out very expensive but now we’re seeing a lot of discounts the usual Lenovo chronic sales that run on their website where is the HP Spectre  X-360 GEM cut with this graphics option just came out so pretty much. It’s still selling for list price to give you an example for a similar configuration for a Core i7 with 16 gigs of the ram of 512 gig  SSD. And the 4k display option at $1799  list price for the HP.  Now the ThinkPad has list price is $2789. Considerably higher but haha right now they’re having one of their many sales. So it’s around $2,100.

 So, yes it is more expensive still by about $300. But not as huge a  differential as long as there’s a sale going on on Lenovo.com now. HP does not offer low-end configurations because this is meant to be their High Line  Specter. They have Envy’s and other products if you want to get a lower-end configuration. So it’s only available with that core i7 – 8750H 6 core CPU. It starts out with eight gigs of ram you can get 16 gigs of ram. You can go from a  256 gig SSD all the way up and there is only a 4k display option with the Lenovo.  

You can actually go down to a Core i5  8400H 8th generation 45 watt CPU but it’s a four-core CPU. If you want to have full HD options to save you some money. So if you really configure it down and even go with a 256 gig SATA 3 instead of Nvme  SSD. Which is the slower kind of SSD but still pretty fast then you’re talking  $1,400. So it runs a wider range of configurations versus the HP but overall.

The HP typically for a similar configuration like I said is gonna be several hundred dollars cheaper.

When it comes to ports they’re pretty close but again Lenovo being the business-oriented model, it has a slight edge here. It has two USB ports whereas the HP only has one USB a port and it has a full-size SD  card slot instead of the micro SD card slot on the HP. 

They both have two  Thunderbolt 3 ports full for line 40  gigabit per second. They both have headphone jacks they both have HDMI  ports as well keyboard. Well the HP keyboard is excellent. I  really enjoy typing on a lot and the only challenge is that ThinkPad keyboards are legendary and dreamy feeling as long as you like a little bit of traveling. And some people don’t anymore because they’ve got new slow travel keyboards but I think a lot of people would say yes I think the keyboard is still just about as good as you can possibly get. So HP has tough competition here but it’s not a slouch either.

Now for the track guys, I like both trackpads quite well but the ThinkPad has a  precision trackpad whereas the HP goes with your usual Synaptics trackpad drivers. For those who really love precision over anything else well there, you have it but again I like them both quite well.

When it comes to the displays like I said Lenovo has two options as the full HD on the very base small and then you can move up to the 4k UHD  display. I don’t have the full HD display and the HP only comes with a 4k display so we’re just going to talk about the 4k  display option. And we’ll know about making even comparison. 

Well, Lenovo is a  wide gamut display it’s a more expensive display so while the HP cover is 78% of  Adobe RGB full srgb the ThinkPad goes all the way to 99% of Adobe RGB. So essentially all of Adobe RGB plus all of srgb. This is important for those who work in print if you’re doing creative work for print you’re gonna care about this otherwise it’s just nice.

 I can do for the rest of us who aren’t doing I  put for print the only drawback with the with a ThinkPad is the class that they put on top and it just there’s an air gap. There so with that what happens there is it creates some reflections under bright lighting and it looks like a little haze so it reduces the look at the quality look of the display which is unfortunate. The HP is very glossy but it doesn’t have any air gap so you don’t have that same effect back in Lenovo’s corner. Though it’s they call it a 400 nits display we measured it at 359 nits where does the HP’s is a  300 nits display that we measured it 299.8 in it. So close enough. 

And all those displays are a bit brighter for the pen both of these support a pen the HP  active pen uses intrigue technology and Lenovo ThinkPad 10 is waLkme. Yes, both of these support pen pressure level variability up to 4096 levels and they use similar underlying technology. The experience is really close I wouldn’t make a buying decision based on this factor I slightly prefer wakame, yes but really they’re very close.

So yeah now when we’re talking about the core i7 in both of these obviously we have the  NVIDIA GTX 1050TI Max-Q. You’re looking at pretty much the same performance because you’re looking at the same CPU  and the same GPU there and the benchmarks are pretty darn close. 

ThinkPadcomes up a little higher and CPU the  HP comes up a little higher on the GPU  based tests so the real difference here is the thermals and surprisingly cuz specters have always run really hot and this is the most powerful one yet they have the thermals a little bit under better control at HP then ThinkPad does which is again it’s surprising to me so the core temperatures typically run higher on the ThinkPad. And you’ll hear the fans more often it’s carbon fiber versus metal though so you won’t feel the surface feeling is hot to you when it touches your skin. 

So there’s that but yeah HP actually is doing a  little better at cooling so that means that when you do demanding tasks for a  long period of time where the CPU would normally start to throttle down you’ll get a little less throttling on the HP.  But they’re both going to throttle because when you make these super thin and light designs with incredibly powerful internals even with fin and like gaming laptops like the 15-inch  Razer Blade there’s going to be some throttling and that’s going to happen.  But win for the HP on that one.

 Battery life Lenovo has an 81-hour battery, the HP has an 84 watt-hour battery. They both have compact 135-watt chargers that our proprietary one uses the ThinkPad connector that rectangular style one and the HP has a  barrel pin connector.  They both do support USB C charging as well though if you want to do that instead so as you might expect battery life is going to be similar  the HP typically runs a little bit longer by about 25 to 30 minutes longer on a charge doing the same productivity light video streaming.

It’s a brightness test that we use for testing our laptops real-world style but close enough so we’re talking five-and-a-half hours for the thing pad versus six hours for the HP. You know without using draconian power management and setting into a low power mode or anything like that. So there you have it and like I said I want them both you know it’s not there’s not a clear winner here. Obviously the specter has that gorgeous looking design that I think a  lot of people love versus the understood look of the Lenovo the Lava puts in one more USB a port helps life out a little bit is easier to upgrade for those who are do-it-yourself types. 

Obviously it’s geared a little bit more towards maybe business and corporate folks who do care more about upgrades and servicing and all that sort of thing.  They both have lovely displays Lenovo wins with the 4k display that has the wide gamut option but that glass cover makes a little milky looking and then bright lighting so then the HP kind of jumps up ahead as you can see it’s a  really tight race, either way, you’re gonna get a really nice laptop.




Leave a Comment

Your email address will not be published.